[Wftl-lug] Bye bye desktop Linux

Thu Jun 21 09:10:36 EDT 2007

Yes I would have to agree with you there I don't know any non-techies
(personally) that have Linux installed on the desktop or are dual booting
into it.

Have you ever tried Fedora, if so what are your opinions on it.

From: wftl-lug-bounces at salmar.com [mailto:wftl-lug-bounces at salmar.com] On
Behalf Of Michael Willems
Sent: June 21, 2007 9:04 AM
To: The WFTL LUG
Subject: Re: [Wftl-lug] Bye bye desktop Linux

Well, it is the hot desktop distro... not on servers - on servers I run
CentOS 5 (and corporately we run RHEL 5). Again, I think that as a server
OS, Linux is unbeatable. On the desktop, less sure since the distros appear
to me to be premature/unreliable (Ubuntu) or unfriendly (pretty much all the
others)....

Michael

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Joel Nahrgang <mailto:joelsn at csdca.com>  

To: 'The WFTL LUG' <mailto:wftl-lug at salmar.com>  

Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 08:53

Subject: Re: [Wftl-lug] Bye bye desktop Linux

Well I have never been able to install Ubuntu without problems or the
installation failing on any of my computers that I work on regularly (two
home computers, two work computers and a test box as well, I have never
bothered installing it on any of the servers). So I used different distro's.
I have fedora 5 dual booting with Windows as my main computer at work,
Centos at home, and Slackware on the rest.

To be honest, I have never (knock on wood) have any issues installing
Slackware on any computer, I have installed and reinstalled probably 100
times and never had an issue.

I know Ubuntu is the hot distro out there, but it's definitely not the only
solution.

From: wftl-lug-bounces at salmar.com [mailto:wftl-lug-bounces at salmar.com] On
Behalf Of Michael Willems
Sent: June 20, 2007 10:18 PM
To: The WFTL LUG
Subject: [Wftl-lug] Bye bye desktop Linux

Christian,

Now after removing and reinserting drive and jumpers it no longer even
boots. Sigh.

I have been setting up Windows PCs since 1980 and Linux since 1995. Linux
always takes a week... every time I think it is now getting better, it is
back to square one and someone releases something that does not work. Agreed
Edgy is premature. 

My time is short: I am thinking if I had just spent the $200 on Window$
would have been able to get on with my life, instead of wasting an evening
getting nowhere.

As for the system test: this is a new motherboard/processor/PSU/RAM in an
existing case. Just spent $500.

Yes, I suppose I can now at 10:15 download the old version of Ubuntu (which
had MANY things wrong: try setting the screen from 1024x768 to 1280x1024:
took me like two days) and yes, no doubt by 4am I will have it installed and
running, although my wireless IDE card probably still won't work even then. 

Guess what? I think I will go to the store at 9am tomorrow and by 9:30 I
will have Windows running. SAD, and by releasing crapware like this, Ubuntu
loses a lot more than it gains. SAD! As far as I am concerned, it is bye bye
to desktop Linux and it will be a cold day in hell before I return to this!
RHEL on servers it is, and no more desktop. My time really IS too valuable
for this...

Anyway, thanks for your suggestions - I'm still here on the server!

Michael

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Christian Einfeldt <mailto:einfeldt at gmail.com>  

To: The WFTL LUG <mailto:wftl-lug at salmar.com>  ; Michael
<mailto:michael at willems.ca>  Willems 

Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 22:09

Subject: Re: [Wftl-lug] Ubuntu woes continue

hi Michael

Linux is harder to set up sometimes, but once you get it going, it is often
easier to use than Windows. 

I noticed that you are using Feisty Ubuntu.  Try downgrading to Edgy Ubuntu.
Feisty has lots of known issues.  Lots of people think that Feisty got
pushed out the door too quickly.  I had Feisty, and I downgraded to Edgy.
Seriously.  Don't judge Ubuntu by Feisty. 

Also, try using Mepis.  It is a much easier install.  

Another option.  Try running Mepis from the CDROM for a while to test your
system.  Then when you have Mepis loaded into memory, so that it does not
touch the hard drive, go to xchat and sign onto the Freenode #ubuntu IRC
channel.  It is really busy, and there are lots of people there who can help
you. 

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