[Wftl-lug] Bye bye desktop Linux

Thu Jun 21 11:57:19 EDT 2007

Not to get into a distro war or anything but there has
been a lot of talk on this thread about Ubuntu(which I
love).  A good alternative that is arguably as "easy"
as Ubuntu is PCLinuxOS.  We use it when we get rid of
old pc's here at the college and it has not failed to
install on any hardware combination we have thrown at
it.

It is a liveCD as well.  I would give it a try, it is
pretty nice.

Hope this helps!

-Jason

PS: By the way, I LOVE CentOS on servers.  Just can't
beat security patches until 2012 for 4.5!
--- Michael Willems <michael at willems.ca> wrote:

> Well, it is the hot desktop distro... not on servers
> - on servers I run CentOS 5 (and corporately we run
> RHEL 5). Again, I think that as a server OS, Linux
> is unbeatable. On the desktop, less sure since the
> distros appear to me to be premature/unreliable
> (Ubuntu) or unfriendly (pretty much all the
> others)....
> 
> Michael
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Joel Nahrgang 
>   To: 'The WFTL LUG' 
>   Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 08:53
>   Subject: Re: [Wftl-lug] Bye bye desktop Linux
> 
> 
>   Well I have never been able to install Ubuntu
> without problems or the installation failing on any
> of my computers that I work on regularly (two home
> computers, two work computers and a test box as
> well, I have never bothered installing it on any of
> the servers). So I used different distro's. I have
> fedora 5 dual booting with Windows as my main
> computer at work, Centos at home, and Slackware on
> the rest.
> 
>   To be honest, I have never (knock on wood) have
> any issues installing Slackware on any computer, I
> have installed and reinstalled probably 100 times
> and never had an issue.
> 
>    
> 
>   I know Ubuntu is the hot distro out there, but
> it's definitely not the only solution.
> 
>    
> 
>    
> 
>    
> 
>   From: wftl-lug-bounces at salmar.com
> [mailto:wftl-lug-bounces at salmar.com] On Behalf Of
> Michael Willems
>   Sent: June 20, 2007 10:18 PM
>   To: The WFTL LUG
>   Subject: [Wftl-lug] Bye bye desktop Linux
> 
>    
> 
>   Christian,
> 
>    
> 
>   Now after removing and reinserting drive and
> jumpers it no longer even boots. Sigh.
> 
>    
> 
>   I have been setting up Windows PCs since 1980 and
> Linux since 1995. Linux always takes a week... every
> time I think it is now getting better, it is back to
> square one and someone releases something that does
> not work. Agreed Edgy is premature. 
> 
>    
> 
>   My time is short: I am thinking if I had just
> spent the $200 on Window$  would have been able to
> get on with my life, instead of wasting an evening
> getting nowhere.
> 
>    
> 
>   As for the system test: this is a new
> motherboard/processor/PSU/RAM in an existing case.
> Just spent $500.
> 
>    
> 
>   Yes, I suppose I can now at 10:15 download the old
> version of Ubuntu (which had MANY things wrong: try
> setting the screen from 1024x768 to 1280x1024: took
> me like two days) and yes, no doubt by 4am I will
> have it installed and running, although my wireless
> IDE card probably still won't work even then. 
> 
>    
> 
>   Guess what? I think I will go to the store at 9am
> tomorrow and by 9:30 I will have Windows running.
> SAD, and by releasing crapware like this, Ubuntu
> loses a lot more than it gains. SAD! As far as I am
> concerned, it is bye bye to desktop Linux and it
> will be a cold day in hell before I return to this!
> RHEL on servers it is, and no more desktop. My time
> really IS too valuable for this...
> 
>    
> 
>   Anyway, thanks for your suggestions - I'm still
> here on the server!
> 
>    
> 
>   Michael
> 
>    
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>     From: Christian Einfeldt 
> 
>     To: The WFTL LUG ; Michael Willems 
> 
>     Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 22:09
> 
>     Subject: Re: [Wftl-lug] Ubuntu woes continue
> 
>      
> 
>     hi Michael
> 
>     Linux is harder to set up sometimes, but once
> you get it going, it is often easier to use than
> Windows. 
> 
>     I noticed that you are using Feisty Ubuntu.  Try
> downgrading to Edgy Ubuntu.  Feisty has lots of
> known issues.  Lots of people think that Feisty got
> pushed out the door too quickly.  I had Feisty, and
> I downgraded to Edgy.  Seriously.  Don't judge
> Ubuntu by Feisty. 
> 
>     Also, try using Mepis.  It is a much easier
> install.  
> 
>     Another option.  Try running Mepis from the
> CDROM for a while to test your system.  Then when
> you have Mepis loaded into memory, so that it does
> not touch the hard drive, go to xchat and sign onto
> the Freenode #ubuntu IRC channel.  It is really
> busy, and there are lots of people there who can
> help you. 
> 
> 
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